Xsjado and Mindgame Counterfeits in China
Xsjado Mook Frames Counterfeit
1. Take a look at the top picture above, the frames and the packaging artwork seem to be familiar. The frames are a Xsjado copy, the brand (and you might find this funny) is Moon (doesn’t that sound close to Mook, which is the name Xjsado uses ?).
2. The artwork on the packaging comes from the Quality Dvd by Dustin Latimer & Jb Snyder, they just took the dvd’s cover artwork (featuring the Latimer silhouette) and added a Moon at the top right.
The frames are sold in Beijing (China) by Zhou Jian, owner of the Tornado Club shop (thanks O22y).
Mindgame Counterfeit :
Take the Mindgame Streamline bagpack ed II (image above, on the right), change the color and the logo and you got the Tornado bagpack. As the Moon frames, they are old in Beijing (China) by Zhou Jian, owner of the Tornado Club shop.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
meh.. look a bit shit
October 5th, 2006 at 2:23 pm
I’d rockk Moon frames anyday!!
October 5th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
it is meant to be a really close copy. the moon frames are equal in quality to the original mooks, ive seen them used by 3 diffrent people in a competition in china. the only think it doesnt copy is the price, cheap cheap!
October 5th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
lol.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:49 pm
Shane, what happened?
October 5th, 2006 at 3:02 pm
Somehow they look better to me than xjados,I dont know what it is…
Prize also if tempting.
Not necessarily if something is cheap that its crap, its not always so.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:16 pm
That´s bullshit! Don´t buy this stuff! You´re cutting those off who really worked on the new ideas and revolutionary materials! Support Xsjado and Mindgame! If I see anyone sportin´this stuff I´m gonna beat the crap outta him! Don´t go judas-style on your own industry!!
October 5th, 2006 at 3:17 pm
That is some shady shit! The skate industry is hurting as it is and there are people out there making bootlegs. I honestly wouldn’t have imagined bootlegs in our industry… skateboarding, YES! They have a larger market and a bigger income. I don’t care if the frames are cheap. Support the industry before you try to bend it over backwards and gang rape it. I’ve been rollin’ since the DESTROY ALL GIRLS era (have the shirts to prove it), so I don’t agree with it at all! That’s really unfortunate they stole Shane C’s design and ran with it. That’s the problem with having things made over seas. I’m sure they don’t have the same laws and regulations when it comes to copy written designs. The couple sets of Mook frames I have are made in Romania.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:21 pm
If I see anyone sportin´ this shit, I´m gonna beat the crap outta him! Don´t go judas-style on your own industry!
October 5th, 2006 at 3:35 pm
pirate contry……….they try to cope anything, everything in china. they have no shame.
support mindgame, support rollerblading.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:38 pm
woah great i wud buy the bag TORNADO! wooooo
and best frames in the industry MOON!!!
they shud copy fiziks frames that wud b sick
October 5th, 2006 at 3:44 pm
erm isnt mindgame or xsjado sueing i mean if xsjado r sueing alchemy wtf how can moon get away with it ??
October 5th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
“it is meant to be a really close copy. the moon frames are equal in quality to the original mooks, ive seen them used by 3 diffrent people in a competition in china. the only think it doesnt copy is the price, cheap cheap! ”
“Somehow they look better to me than xjados,I dont know what it is…
Prize also if tempting.
Not necessarily if something is cheap that its crap, its not always so. ”
This is why our industry is dying… Killed by those who started it. 15 years old kids.
October 5th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
Well, the Mook frames molds are prolly owned by Salomon/Adidas, their manufacturing is in china, wouldnt be surprised if they came fromt the same factory. Also the bag, for all we know xsjane went to a chinese manufacturer who already had bag designs for skates and just designed it to have the look and logos. Hey, its always possible.
October 5th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
wtf!! it really sucks!
October 5th, 2006 at 4:47 pm
am I the only one who thinks this is funny as fcuk???
i can’t believe someone actually wants to put the effort into bootlegging rollerblading products, which are barely profitable in the first place
meh
October 5th, 2006 at 5:22 pm
IF THEY MADE BOOTLEG PHIZICS I WOULD COP THEM SHITS INA HEART BEAT
October 5th, 2006 at 5:34 pm
people are bitching about bootleging frames, if you think about it, arnt all frames pritty much the same, they got wheels on thew and an h block, i mean, look at 50/50 and kizers, almost the same, its just little things that make things different, so if they wanna make something alittle dif thats cool, but dont copy off other peoples original design, copy off an idea to make it better, not the same
October 5th, 2006 at 5:54 pm
how much? im def gonna get some moons.
October 5th, 2006 at 6:02 pm
Lets face it everyone copies from others, some do it just more “hidden way than others.
It is not so nice but…who said humanity was nice and fair and kind:D
October 5th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
IDEAS ARE LIKE CARS GET STOLEN EVERY DAY
October 5th, 2006 at 6:22 pm
haha
October 5th, 2006 at 6:32 pm
haha chinese people can make anything!!! why pay 60bucks for a set of frames..when you can get the fake ones for 20bucks?
October 5th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
because like the others are trying to tell you, the industrie is getting raped by this shit. before you know it you will have to count on china to make all your parts.. use your head
October 5th, 2006 at 6:56 pm
to tell you the truth, that is prolly where mooks are made and they just got the specs and ran their own bootleg cause they dont uphold US patent rights, lol.
October 5th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
and becuse you pay £20 u get a nintendo ds and u pay the extra £20 you get a psp if u get me
October 5th, 2006 at 8:02 pm
those goddamn thai-bastards… hopefully they go straight to hell for trying to profit from rollin
October 5th, 2006 at 8:02 pm
i hope day will ship to my country some frames:-)
next day they will bulid a RAZORZ MURDHA 13 skate in a price of a butle of beer:-)
What is the name of the best chines skater?
BRIENPING AArAGONchung or
Crishchin HAffey tong pong
October 5th, 2006 at 8:27 pm
china does that with everything… 65% of computers in china are running a pirated copy of windows!
October 5th, 2006 at 8:32 pm
where I can get moon frames???
October 5th, 2006 at 8:34 pm
i don’t think that computer software piracy is a good example, because there are software piracy in all countries and it’s very hard to measure it (even a non experienced user, can take a cd and duplicate it with a cd-burner)
October 5th, 2006 at 8:35 pm
nils : haha, you have to go in china ;)
October 5th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Don’t buy this!!!! China is robbing all the good ideas of others and they don’t give any credit, they only want to make money!
They don’t support rollin! So don’t support them! Don’t support trademark robbery!
Support real rollin companies like mindgame and xsjado…
October 5th, 2006 at 8:56 pm
TBH you know there not breaking any law at all, loads of people do this and frankley i would rather buy a 3rd of the price bag then the same one for 3 times the price, your paying for the name not the quality.
October 5th, 2006 at 9:03 pm
AND fuck mindgame they suck balls, so am gonna pay 25 quid for a tee thats has a rollerbootie on it OH YES and am gonna pay 60 quid for a bag to hold my skates HMMMM SUCK IT i would buy these any day, actually when i find the dealer or the site I FUCKING WILL FUCK MINDGAME, and plz tell whats so REVOLUTIONARY about these new materials and designs, the only reason mindgame charge that much is because they can.
October 5th, 2006 at 9:41 pm
hahaha
October 5th, 2006 at 9:51 pm
seriously this is hilarious.
andreas, i agree with you. its funny how ROLLERBLADING goods are being bootlegged when rollerblading in the first place is so difficult to profit.
second of all, yes, i agree that its very possible those Moon frames came from the same factory as xsjado.
third, about the bag, who’s to say shane coburn didn’t get some chinese contractor to design his “streamline” bag in the first place. its very possible cobvurn bought this design. anywaqy, there are a ton of bagts that looks exaqctly the same but simply with different logos. what are you going to do? sue a bag maker?
last but not least, how much are the moon frames? i aint going to spend $90CDN to skate xsjado frames that constantly break and had such terrible reputiblility when it came to durability. utterly pointless. i’d rather support moon; at least their prices probably reflect what the frames are actually worth. unlike coburn who charges 60quid for some frames that dont even last two gaps. boo hoo, xsjado frames are sooooo revolution and cool1!!11 boo fucking hoo.
October 5th, 2006 at 9:58 pm
i heard they print “these frames have nothing to do with xsjados” on them so that makes it okay
October 5th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
all those people supporting ‘moon’. You’re shooting your own foot, why spend money developing prototypes and creating new molds if some other company is going to steal it at once and not have to pay any r&D costs. There are reasons for patent laws. It’s unethical and disgusting. To anyone living in a “developed” country, these will never see the light of day outside the black market perhaps, as patent laws are upheld pretty strictly.
October 6th, 2006 at 12:11 am
^^^ I agree with this u its not about how much the frames cost its about where ur money goes…even tho moons mite be cheaper xsjado puts money back into rollerbladin and supports pros…so it benefits the industry to but genuine frames
October 6th, 2006 at 12:18 am
honestly… mooks frames arent even that expensive anyway… how can everyone be so ready to fuck our industry when pro riders are getting paid pennies… we definately dont need any bootlegs stop being cheap morons the money is all necessary, there arent even that many rollerbladers too.
October 6th, 2006 at 1:03 am
I think the only reason why these moon frame exist is because that
skate shop owner in Beijing found the factory that makes these frames
and bought it off the factory.
>>The frames are sold in Beijing (China) by Zhou Jian, owner of the Tornado Club shop
Who ever Zhou Jian is, he is a fool by posting such thing on rollernews and
I think he should pack his skateshop. I am really pissed off with this dude for
not supporting the industry. What a fuck head.
October 6th, 2006 at 1:08 am
If I were shane, I would sue those sons of bitches, film the trial, and put it as a bonus on accidental machines.
October 6th, 2006 at 1:36 am
HAXED!
October 6th, 2006 at 2:06 am
Whoever got this source should mail the guy in China and tell him to make some Fiziks. Think about that…Fiziks for the cheaper than standard frames.
And all this stuff on copying…since Epoch (who probably stole their idea) put out some pics of their frames, all the frame companies have started making frames with huge gaos and aluminium cores…it just goes around and around.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:32 am
Sue Shane, Sue!
October 6th, 2006 at 3:33 am
Rollerblading is being killed by its own people.
Ok go ahead, buy this crap, but then dont come crying when there are no more inline magazines, no more DVD’s, no more competitions, and eventually, no more rollerblading…
the reason why mindgames t shirts and mooks are expensive is because there’s no demand for rolling stuff, the less the companies produce, the more it costs. the more it costs, the higher u have to sell it.
go to school or something.
October 6th, 2006 at 4:43 am
id sue them fake ass motherfukkers man come up with ur own shit cheapfukkers
October 6th, 2006 at 6:01 am
Don’t turn your back on your own industry, if these little park rats want to call themselves rollerbladers, then they should support their industry. rollerblading
isn’t about rockin your shit “moons” and thinking your a bad ass. its about supporting your industry and your passion held by our already small group of followers
October 6th, 2006 at 6:51 am
that is fucking disgraceful! shane coburn spent a shitload of time and effort making this design a reality and some fucker just comes along and steals it!?! dont kil our industry!!! this fag isnt gonna come up with the next new shit, so why would you give him any of your money?
October 6th, 2006 at 8:35 am
Eric and Roussel : smart thoughts. Unluckily, a brain is needed to understand these thoughts. So, I’m not sure you will get a lot of success around here…
We are soon to be dead.
In french : quelle bande de bande de batards.
October 6th, 2006 at 10:46 am
shit!!!!!!!!! please support the real rolling company and buy the real thing nomatter how much their products are…… making these shits kills rollerblading!!
October 6th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
do you guys really think china gives two shits? considering china is a communist nation with 1,306,313,812 people, do you honestly think they care about some kids on skates opinion?
and please stop referring to rollerblading as “our industry”, its like living in new york and saying the yankee’s is “your team”.
piece
October 6th, 2006 at 12:17 pm
I like what dirty said…
>>and please stop referring to rollerblading as “our industry”, its like living in new york and saying the yankee’s is “your team”.
October 6th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
A brain is also needed to understand that the average salary of Chinese prevent them from buying the original products. You may have parents that can afford a 50$ piece of plastic, but this represent a huge amount of money here for most of the people.
October 6th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
This surely happened because Salomon stopped pruducing stuff in their romanian factory to go to China.
It’s really often that factories which produce stuff for a society produce also their own copies.
If Salomon really moved to china, then what happens is their own fault!
October 6th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
Now it´s a powerslide problem hehehehehe
October 6th, 2006 at 2:58 pm
haha i do not think china is a communist nation because most of the chinese love money more than anything.they can do whatever they can to get money.
October 6th, 2006 at 2:59 pm
china is a crazy nation.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:04 pm
poverty is no excuse for thievery of non essential items.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:19 pm
my next frames are gonna be those kizer alunium + plastic lovely long lasting frames for sure.
I think when u buy something buy the best one +suport ur sport,if u can aford it if u cant its a different story…
sorry if offtopic.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:20 pm
WOW. what the fuck.
October 6th, 2006 at 3:56 pm
that shit is weak.
October 6th, 2006 at 6:09 pm
Keep in mind that the xsjado frames are also made in china. Nothing illegal about producing two identical products and then selling them as different brands. The auto industry has done that for years. Look at the mazda navajo and the ford explorer, or acura legend & the honda accord. Or the mercury marauder/ford crown vic. Plymouth voyager/dodge caravan/chrysler town&country. oldsmobile alero/pontiac grand am. dodge neon/plymouth neon.
October 6th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
they look better than the mooks coz they r all black but thats just messed up other producer do that all they did was change the last leter nd thats about it
October 6th, 2006 at 10:54 pm
Thatz wuts killing the industry! wtf?! how do they get away with that shit? And wutz up with the guy goin on about cars?
October 7th, 2006 at 3:52 am
i know right nobody gives a shit about the auto industry were talking about the rollerblading industry
October 7th, 2006 at 5:59 am
as far as the backpack goes, a company [outside of rollerblading] probably produces a pretty standard backpack, therefore there isn’t a specific copyright/patent on it. you can request a sample piece from that company then have it produced in whatever style/color you choose. however, it may be different for the frames [if xsjado has a patent on its design].
October 7th, 2006 at 6:24 am
“even tho moons mite be cheaper xsjado puts money back into rollerbladin and supports pros…so it benefits the industry to but genuine frames”
does it heck help out the industry.. it help out its-self.. by supporting Pro’s all it does is give its own brand a better image so all you 12yr kids lick Pro’s balls and wonna be just like them , therefore buying what there skating… thus giving more moeny back to the company..
if they were realy supporting the industry there products would be cheaper.. flogging Tee’s with the word “Blader” on for £22 a pop is plain ridiculois.. but they now idoit kids like you will buy them.
“look at me im a rollerblader”… its the only reason why you wear such stuff.. basicaly to define what you do..
no doubts if mindgame brought out a twig for £30 saying “rollerblader” on it.. 1/2 you idiots would still buy..
so what if they’r making a Frame that looks like “mooks”.. liek it will effect you anyways
companys copy each other all the time… K2 sued a shite loads of companys over there frames ( think it was to do with replacable H-Blocks)….
” if i saw him i’d punch him” - jesus.. grow up..
October 7th, 2006 at 11:14 am
hey Idiots It’s not about the fact that it’s originally made out there, Just so you know if it wasn’t made out there then it would definitely be alot more money to buy than what mooks/mindgame bags and anything else that China has been stealing the Patent from our companies from anyway. I feel sorry for the companies because when they first got started they probably couldn’t afford to get a patent in china to help protect them from this shit happening to them. as it is it’s a shit load of money to get a good patent lawyer and patent off the ground anyway. then to get one done in those countries who actually don’t like the United States and will do it just to spite us makes the sting of this even greater. Don’t support that fake brand. If you really want to see our sport becomes just as popular if not more than skateboarding or biking then truly support your true companies and boycott these pretender companies. and if you’re in China then Fuck Zhou Jian up and burn down his fuckin rip off Shop. Show them that if you break intercontinental laws then there are consequences to pay. They only did that because rollin is way more popular in asia than out here and why use your brains for an actual creative idea if you can simply steal one from someone else who you think won’t find out about even though we are a very tight knit community.
October 7th, 2006 at 11:26 am
Me’s a fucking dipshit. Mindgame just like Xsjado didn’t set their prices to make a shit load of money off of you. China tells them how much it’s gonna cost, then We american companies will put a little bit on to cover the cost of making them and shipping them, with just enough to get by, Then the skate shops add on money so that they can make a profit. If you don’t believe me go to USD. com a check out the shop. It’s the cheapest you’ll find USD’s and it’s not about how much they can make. It cost them 75 dollars for a complete set to make and they add on 25 fuckin bucks and you wanna rob from them. We don’t need rollerbladers like you. Go back to skateboarding. These Chineese companies are straight robbing us for our industry. This doesn’t help rollin. All companies are from the US. so how in the fuck is that gonna help the industry. It’ll kill the industry. If you want to help ME them come up with an original idea on your own. Get about 1 million to back up and produce the idea and if it’s a really good one, the world will buy it and you can stop suckin dick for a living.
October 7th, 2006 at 7:13 pm
shut up WNH. fucking tool
October 7th, 2006 at 10:28 pm
those moons are pretty sweet, but yeah the rollerblading industry cant aford to have conterfits made n shit
October 8th, 2006 at 9:02 am
hey sweet cheeks, I bet if you said that in front of me, you’d bitch out and I’d make you my gay neighbor’s SWEET CHEEKS. Fucking fool.
October 8th, 2006 at 4:40 pm
Sucky Sucky $5
^_^
October 9th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
wtf that is messed up i dont like that, those r my two main brands i use that back pack and frames wtf thats not cool
October 9th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
i’ll get me those moon frames! what r u talkin bout industry? same quality they say. u get xsajados that means ur payin 20 sum’n plus more. fuck that shit!basicaly ur payin extra for the name xsajado. im just here to skate and have fun. ya’ll talk like ur pro or diddy or sum’n. mr chinese tornado here helpin skater hu cnt afford to buy expensive ass frames. whats wrong wit that? industry my ass! ya’ll full of shit
October 9th, 2006 at 7:49 pm
and when im mean shit that means you readin this u fuck face. fuck outa here!
October 9th, 2006 at 9:01 pm
[…] Some updates on the chinese Moon frames (Xsjado Mook Counterfeits): it seems that the Dustin Latimer artwork was removed from the packaging (check this post) and they added a white Moon logo on the sides of the frames (thanks O22y). […]
October 9th, 2006 at 10:24 pm
china is a comunist country which means things cost very little because people make very little. for like $5 you could buy dinner at a nice resterant for like 10 people. americans shouldn’t buy these frames but, i can understand chinese peps doin it cause $50 US is alot to spend on frames in china.
October 10th, 2006 at 12:46 am
THats wrong for rollerblading. I’m all about price and making that money, but I love rollerblading, its the reason I’m where Im at today. No true rollerblader should support anyone bootlegging in our industry. Rollerblading is struggling enough as it is and shane does not deserve that with all he and he’s staff have done and continue to do for rollerblading.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:28 pm
haha good point…..of course i notice afterwards as usual…haha
October 10th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
well all i can say about the matter is that you could easily see this coming. our sport is getting a lot bigger than anyone would have ever expected! we all cant afford just to buy products by rollerblading companies it they are expensive, for example i snapped my only ever mook frames after skating them for about 30 mins, 40 quid down the tube, the same goes for a set of mindgame latimer 3 wheels i got, i would have been lucky if they lasted 30 mins. if someone can offer us a product of similar quality, maybe even better, and we get hours of skating fun with it then why not buy the cheapos. how much does it cost the REAL companies to make a set of frames anyhow??? whats the point of slagging off china when they probably have some of the best skaters in the world, in a few years when they release dvds with shit hot skating and they are 1/3 of the price of an american dvd u’ll not be complaining.
October 11th, 2006 at 2:34 am
his staff, Scott, haha
October 12th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
why don’t they bootleg diapers instead, the diaper industry make ALOT more money than on rollerblading
l2bootleg, Zhou Jian!!!!!111
October 12th, 2006 at 8:52 pm
shane should sue them niggas
October 16th, 2006 at 7:31 am
i noticed a lil difference bout them. the moon frames has a shorter H-block than the mooks. also in stead of a k they use an n lol
October 16th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Haha im glad. That means crappy chink companies actually want to counterfeit up