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	<title>Comments on: Savannah &#038; AO Unity</title>
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		<title>By: the barnabator</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89218</link>
		<dc:creator>the barnabator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i call it a criss cross applesause</description>
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		<title>By: sk8rs_s0uL</title>
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		<dc:creator>sk8rs_s0uL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i mean i do care what its called and everything but then again i could really give a flying fuck i love rolling so much you could call it a "whack a hater" for all i care cuz really, fuck you!!!lolz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i mean i do care what its called and everything but then again i could really give a flying fuck i love rolling so much you could call it a &#8220;whack a hater&#8221; for all i care cuz really, fuck you!!!lolz</p>
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		<title>By: W.N.H 2</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89147</link>
		<dc:creator>W.N.H 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob. That last trick you asked about is called a rough sweatstance. Kind of like a rough makio/Mizou/Kindgrind/Fish and even like a rough soul. When you grind on the soul's heel only it then becomes rough. I think the same goes for just grinding on the toe part of the soul. As for Rollerbladingisgay, I don't remember the last time your sport had a commercial either based on them or with pro's in it. You have Jackass and other shows to show the world how truly stupid and a glutton for pain you truly are since you can't do your easy ass tricks correctly. I still am waiting for the time when a am can grind a half of a rail without trying it a thousand times. or see a trick besides 50-50 on the mini ramps (what a fuckin cheater ass trick. ) Get a life and a job Rollerbladingisgay and realize how gay it is to love wood you fuckin Dick Muncher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob. That last trick you asked about is called a rough sweatstance. Kind of like a rough makio/Mizou/Kindgrind/Fish and even like a rough soul. When you grind on the soul&#8217;s heel only it then becomes rough. I think the same goes for just grinding on the toe part of the soul. As for Rollerbladingisgay, I don&#8217;t remember the last time your sport had a commercial either based on them or with pro&#8217;s in it. You have Jackass and other shows to show the world how truly stupid and a glutton for pain you truly are since you can&#8217;t do your easy ass tricks correctly. I still am waiting for the time when a am can grind a half of a rail without trying it a thousand times. or see a trick besides 50-50 on the mini ramps (what a fuckin cheater ass trick. ) Get a life and a job Rollerbladingisgay and realize how gay it is to love wood you fuckin Dick Muncher.</p>
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		<title>By: TN</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89141</link>
		<dc:creator>TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep rollings goin places...

i mean we dont even have proper names for tricks

and yeah, have fun being cool when your 2 n 1/2 years of rollin is up...

anyone wana start a pornstar debate? cos thats actually the trick alleyoop, i remember if you did it forwards then it was said forwards porn hahaha

whateva.... 

i think its just important for you KIDS to know your roots, appreciate and embrace them, fuk it, like every area of rollin, ohh that kids pants are this way, hats grosse, fukin idiot its still skating, vert, amazing, like just cos it aint for you doesnt make it any more, or any less credible than stuff that is "for you"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep rollings goin places&#8230;</p>
<p>i mean we dont even have proper names for tricks</p>
<p>and yeah, have fun being cool when your 2 n 1/2 years of rollin is up&#8230;</p>
<p>anyone wana start a pornstar debate? cos thats actually the trick alleyoop, i remember if you did it forwards then it was said forwards porn hahaha</p>
<p>whateva&#8230;. </p>
<p>i think its just important for you KIDS to know your roots, appreciate and embrace them, fuk it, like every area of rollin, ohh that kids pants are this way, hats grosse, fukin idiot its still skating, vert, amazing, like just cos it aint for you doesnt make it any more, or any less credible than stuff that is &#8220;for you&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sk8rs_s0uL</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89140</link>
		<dc:creator>sk8rs_s0uL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo fuck dat!!!??!!! rollllerrrrr4444lifffeeeeeee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo fuck dat!!!??!!! rollllerrrrr4444lifffeeeeeee</p>
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		<title>By: rollerblading is gay</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89118</link>
		<dc:creator>rollerblading is gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if people saw that rollerbladers argue over shit like this cause the names are solidified yet, they'd know how stupid you guys are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if people saw that rollerbladers argue over shit like this cause the names are solidified yet, they&#8217;d know how stupid you guys are</p>
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		<title>By: your fuckin dad mate</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89105</link>
		<dc:creator>your fuckin dad mate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i just want to say who ever made the name farvernuegensnjklfsd is a tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i just want to say who ever made the name farvernuegensnjklfsd is a tool.</p>
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		<title>By: your fuckin dad mate</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89104</link>
		<dc:creator>your fuckin dad mate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>call it what ever is easiest.

im not gona go around saying "270 degree alley oop back side unity grind" when i can just say "back sav".

who cares anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>call it what ever is easiest.</p>
<p>im not gona go around saying &#8220;270 degree alley oop back side unity grind&#8221; when i can just say &#8220;back sav&#8221;.</p>
<p>who cares anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: RobF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what about farv?  people actually call it ao royale?  I thought it was full torque now.  torque being one foot.

and whatever happened to wheel barrows?  they were fun, but for some reason became uncool.

and what about xgrinds are they called something else, and does it matter if your front foot us topside, or your backfoot, or are there two ridiculous names for that?

and what's the grind called that's sweatstance but your topside foot is only grinding on the back wheel part of the frame?

wow...this is one place our sport has always suffered.  too many variations is good and bad for explaining and understanding our sport. 

I think someone should have richie eisler or someone do a sweet 16 of every trick, all labeled in an edit.  it would be hours long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what about farv?  people actually call it ao royale?  I thought it was full torque now.  torque being one foot.</p>
<p>and whatever happened to wheel barrows?  they were fun, but for some reason became uncool.</p>
<p>and what about xgrinds are they called something else, and does it matter if your front foot us topside, or your backfoot, or are there two ridiculous names for that?</p>
<p>and what&#8217;s the grind called that&#8217;s sweatstance but your topside foot is only grinding on the back wheel part of the frame?</p>
<p>wow&#8230;this is one place our sport has always suffered.  too many variations is good and bad for explaining and understanding our sport. </p>
<p>I think someone should have richie eisler or someone do a sweet 16 of every trick, all labeled in an edit.  it would be hours long.</p>
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		<title>By: ölkjökj</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89100</link>
		<dc:creator>ölkjökj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>savannah sounds better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>savannah sounds better</p>
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		<title>By: Billy dOYLE</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89096</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy dOYLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IM STILL GONNA CALL IT A SAVANAH so fuck off... who cares what its called - just do tricks dont worry about the names!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IM STILL GONNA CALL IT A SAVANAH so fuck off&#8230; who cares what its called - just do tricks dont worry about the names!</p>
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		<title>By: DarthRoller</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89092</link>
		<dc:creator>DarthRoller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the thing lads:

Let's take the "neighbourhood".

I've heard it called a "biscuit" and a "byn soul" and a "demon".

Names change from location to location. So since when is there a "correct" name? Same with the "California" (sit-down) grinds. Loads of people just call a (for example) California Top Acid a Top Acid.

As for the Unity/Savannah thing. I don't know what is "correct" and, truth be told, I don't really care, so long as somebody understands what I mean. Sure porns used to be called acid mizous I think? And nobody complains there?

I (personally) am not into the idea of calling what I've always called a Savannah an "AO Unity". Surely "AO" is a term for SOUL-based tricks and not for H-block or "ROYALE"-based tricks.

I don't like the idea of what I call a savannah being an "AO Unity for another reason-BECAUSE i LIKE THE NAME FARV AND NEVER WISH TO CALL A FARV AN AO ROYALE.

Yet another reason is that any AO tricks that are spun into (or indeed spun into with truespin) get the spins counted as so: 180, 360, 540.

The idea of someone saying "I did a 360 unity" just confuses me. That could mean they entered it 270 OR 450 as they are both close to 360 and they've merely neglected to mention whether they entered it fakie or landed it backside.

I also here people say "true" unity and "true" savannah a lot. It's not true because it's a H-block trick, it's BACKSIDE until you spin 270 degrees or more. To do a true backside savannah would require a 450 spin (unless you took off from fakie of course, then it would be 270 or, God forbid, 630).

Next people will be saying "I did a true royale". "Um, you mean a back royale?" "Yeah a back royale, whoops".

All that is just the way I see it. I might be wrong. If I am, I don't care. I can sleep comfortably tonight knowing that Chris Edwards, Jon Julio, Arlo Eisenburg and Dustin Latimer aren't going to be waiting under my bed tos tab me to death because I mis-named a trick.

Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing lads:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take the &#8220;neighbourhood&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard it called a &#8220;biscuit&#8221; and a &#8220;byn soul&#8221; and a &#8220;demon&#8221;.</p>
<p>Names change from location to location. So since when is there a &#8220;correct&#8221; name? Same with the &#8220;California&#8221; (sit-down) grinds. Loads of people just call a (for example) California Top Acid a Top Acid.</p>
<p>As for the Unity/Savannah thing. I don&#8217;t know what is &#8220;correct&#8221; and, truth be told, I don&#8217;t really care, so long as somebody understands what I mean. Sure porns used to be called acid mizous I think? And nobody complains there?</p>
<p>I (personally) am not into the idea of calling what I&#8217;ve always called a Savannah an &#8220;AO Unity&#8221;. Surely &#8220;AO&#8221; is a term for SOUL-based tricks and not for H-block or &#8220;ROYALE&#8221;-based tricks.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of what I call a savannah being an &#8220;AO Unity for another reason-BECAUSE i LIKE THE NAME FARV AND NEVER WISH TO CALL A FARV AN AO ROYALE.</p>
<p>Yet another reason is that any AO tricks that are spun into (or indeed spun into with truespin) get the spins counted as so: 180, 360, 540.</p>
<p>The idea of someone saying &#8220;I did a 360 unity&#8221; just confuses me. That could mean they entered it 270 OR 450 as they are both close to 360 and they&#8217;ve merely neglected to mention whether they entered it fakie or landed it backside.</p>
<p>I also here people say &#8220;true&#8221; unity and &#8220;true&#8221; savannah a lot. It&#8217;s not true because it&#8217;s a H-block trick, it&#8217;s BACKSIDE until you spin 270 degrees or more. To do a true backside savannah would require a 450 spin (unless you took off from fakie of course, then it would be 270 or, God forbid, 630).</p>
<p>Next people will be saying &#8220;I did a true royale&#8221;. &#8220;Um, you mean a back royale?&#8221; &#8220;Yeah a back royale, whoops&#8221;.</p>
<p>All that is just the way I see it. I might be wrong. If I am, I don&#8217;t care. I can sleep comfortably tonight knowing that Chris Edwards, Jon Julio, Arlo Eisenburg and Dustin Latimer aren&#8217;t going to be waiting under my bed tos tab me to death because I mis-named a trick.</p>
<p>Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wee_Freddy</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89088</link>
		<dc:creator>Wee_Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is the first time iv every been anoyed with roller news. it doesnt matter what the trick is called so why the fuck should we call it that? im still gonna call them savahnas and im sure over half the people on this forum is gonna keep calling them that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is the first time iv every been anoyed with roller news. it doesnt matter what the trick is called so why the fuck should we call it that? im still gonna call them savahnas and im sure over half the people on this forum is gonna keep calling them that.</p>
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		<title>By: W.N.H.2</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89083</link>
		<dc:creator>W.N.H.2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all the poster actually show a savannah. ever since daily bread was out they could never truly get the names down right. I've been skating for fifteen years and I remember when they said that brian bell was doing a farside mizou when he was doing a sweatstance I remember when they use to call top souls dark side soul or far side soul in his little video he shows  guy doing 270 back sav. and that's just a little different but the trick is still the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all the poster actually show a savannah. ever since daily bread was out they could never truly get the names down right. I&#8217;ve been skating for fifteen years and I remember when they said that brian bell was doing a farside mizou when he was doing a sweatstance I remember when they use to call top souls dark side soul or far side soul in his little video he shows  guy doing 270 back sav. and that&#8217;s just a little different but the trick is still the same.</p>
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		<title>By: TN</title>
		<link>http://www.rollernews.com/savannah-ao-unity_3377.html#comment-89080</link>
		<dc:creator>TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahaha sk8rs soul

no a savannah is a 270 backside alleyoop unity (or a forwards inspin 270 reverse/alleyoop unity)

thats what a savannah is,

the confusion is mostly in the alleyoop,

is it clearer if its said/written, 270 backside reverse unity = savannah?

and to clarify inspin is where you start your spin off with the first 90 degrees of rotation lookin/facing the obstacle, outspin is where the intial 90 degrees of rotation is facing away from the obstacle...

p.s inspin and outspin is how we should describe spinning fakie into tricks... Saying Cab, gives props to skateboarding as its trick named after it's invent whore steve caballero (a fakie/switch stance on a skateboard and spinning either a 180/half cab or 360/full cab), and we dont ride sideways or a switch stance haha, we have forwards and backwards, aand crab hahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaha sk8rs soul</p>
<p>no a savannah is a 270 backside alleyoop unity (or a forwards inspin 270 reverse/alleyoop unity)</p>
<p>thats what a savannah is,</p>
<p>the confusion is mostly in the alleyoop,</p>
<p>is it clearer if its said/written, 270 backside reverse unity = savannah?</p>
<p>and to clarify inspin is where you start your spin off with the first 90 degrees of rotation lookin/facing the obstacle, outspin is where the intial 90 degrees of rotation is facing away from the obstacle&#8230;</p>
<p>p.s inspin and outspin is how we should describe spinning fakie into tricks&#8230; Saying Cab, gives props to skateboarding as its trick named after it&#8217;s invent whore steve caballero (a fakie/switch stance on a skateboard and spinning either a 180/half cab or 360/full cab), and we dont ride sideways or a switch stance haha, we have forwards and backwards, aand crab hahaha</p>
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