Moon Frames Updates
Some updates on the chinese Moon frames (Xsjado Mook Counterfeits): it seems that the Dustin Latimer artwork was removed from the packaging (check this post) and they added a white Moon logo on the sides of the frames (thanks O22y).
Tags: xsjado
October 9th, 2006 at 9:03 pm
they look jawesome. i emailed the slant but i have yet to receive a reply. too bad he probably wont ship overseas.
October 9th, 2006 at 9:22 pm
do u realise wot this is doing to an industry in the shape ours is in, i can safely say, THIS IS THE LAST THING we need. and cmon, support the companys tht give two shits, or they will end up goin bust, nd the lame counterfits wont have anything to copy no more, they will vanish, and we wont have any shit to skate, let alone copy! these frames defeat the point of why they are created, ironic? I THINK SO!
October 9th, 2006 at 9:28 pm
yeah yeah… this is pretty to say but i think it is a good idea to have alternative parts of skates… and cheaper cause i don’t have monney to pay new stuffs
October 9th, 2006 at 9:32 pm
i think its time for rolling to make money off the damn chinks, do it the american way…. sue the bastards!!!
October 9th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
i think there prity cool if they cost lee $$$ ill skate thim any day
October 9th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
fuck that shit
October 9th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
yea that sucks.. we need more of the major companies to get the money to try and put it back into the industry, or what there is of it.
October 9th, 2006 at 10:19 pm
yea that sucks.. we need more of the major companies to get the money to try and put it back into the industry, or what there is of it.
October 9th, 2006 at 11:50 pm
wow, that really does suck. whoever ripped em off shoulda kept em to themselves …even the shot of DL on the box is ripped off hahaha
October 9th, 2006 at 11:50 pm
wow, that really does suck. whoever ripped em off shoulda kept em to themselves …even the shot of DL on the box is ripped off hahaha
October 10th, 2006 at 12:27 am
man its cool how people really wanna do help the industry…… u think those people there r gonna use the money of fake mooks to put back in the industry. if their that bad of people to copy the shit their prolly not gonna help out the industry at all, use ur brain common sense think…
October 10th, 2006 at 1:14 am
xjado
October 10th, 2006 at 1:23 am
what a curse on the industry…i mean copying nike is one thing, but copying products from an already crippled industry…
thats just wrong.
October 10th, 2006 at 1:46 am
dude thats so fucked up. they didnt do shit to make these. fuckin bastards should die on their birthday.
October 10th, 2006 at 1:47 am
they r jus mooks. they didnt even make those. jus stuck stickers on them!
October 10th, 2006 at 1:47 am
they r jus mooks. they didnt even make those. jus stuck stickers on them!
October 10th, 2006 at 2:06 am
are u even serious
October 10th, 2006 at 2:07 am
are u even serious
October 10th, 2006 at 2:36 am
just so everyone knows dont buy these frames… they cause cancer
October 10th, 2006 at 2:41 am
Get off of their dick, They look way better then xsjado’s shitty mooks anyway
October 10th, 2006 at 3:57 am
I take offence into the “chink” comment. Who cares if this shop is making frames? It’s not like they’re in the U.S. In those countries it costs more money to import the products we have available here so they created a way to make everything cost efficient. It’s just business. I didn’t see any of you complaining when the Kin and Desijion (sp?) frames were posted on here. And if you are going to criticize this shop for trying to supply foreign skaters with parts, I am going to criticize Moonshine and Cory Cross for making soul plates and juice blocks. They are underground “companies” that “supply high-quality, affordable products.” Furthermore, at the rate the “industry” is going, these frames won’t impact us at all, at least not in the U.S. for the most part. Also, you can’t tell me that no one owns a product that was replicated or modeled after an “original” product. All of you who download music, games, etc. you aren’t helping those “industries.”
For the record, these frames may look similar to the Mooks but there are differences. Also, an overseas lawsuit would end up costing more due to restrictions in our laws.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:56 am
lol chinese! they bite off of anything. they probably workin on cloning !
October 10th, 2006 at 5:27 am
SHIT COPY FRAME
October 10th, 2006 at 5:28 am
STOP THE COPY PLEASE!
October 10th, 2006 at 5:47 am
yo N, i can see where ur coming from, but i know that there is more that one frame compainy that sells frames in asia. I don’t see how you will buy frames that are making money off other peoples idea. it dosn’t matter if they are not making alot, its still fucked up.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:41 am
i agree. “N” pwns ass.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:42 am
But just think about it, if the companys would put their parts cheaper they would sell more.. those frames probally come from the same factory as xsjado frames. and making them cost the same so why is the xsjados so expensive. It would be better if they would put the price to a 25 dollars or something.
October 10th, 2006 at 7:18 am
fuk this.
took latimer’s picture off and added a moon on it???!
ohh snap, sooo fuking smart.
maybe i should just fuking buy a ford and call it a bmw.
fuking materbating damn chinese copy cat pirate pigs.
October 10th, 2006 at 7:42 am
ya man f all the pros, they are all freaking billionaires because theys ell t-shirts for 30$ and frames for 80$, f latimer and his mansion, f shane and his millions of dollars, ripping us off with over priced products. they be all laughing saying stuff like “DAMN WE ARE SCREWING OVER EVERYONE IN ROLLERBLADING WITH OUR OVER PRICED PRODUCTS”
ps that was sarcasm.
WAKE UP PEOPLE! MOST PEOPLE IN ROLLING CAN’T EVEN MAKE A LIVING OFF OF IT AND HAVE SECOND JOBS!
October 10th, 2006 at 8:11 am
SUPPORTING REAL ROLLING, SUPPORT MINDGAME, SUPPORT XSJADO.
October 10th, 2006 at 8:18 am
Think about what Mindgame is doing with the money they make. Put it back into the sport. Sponsor a team to make sure those guys keep skating, represent the brand and sport. The team invented the mook frame, the guys that copy it dont put time into working out the shape and stuff. And those copy cats dont sponsor any comps, pay for ads in Be-Mag or ONE, need money to make a new dvd etc.
Of course I could copy the next Mindgame DVD and sell it for 2 Euro cause a blank DVD costs 50 Cent. And yeah I’d take the money to buy more blank DVDs til there is no idiot left making a DVD…
October 10th, 2006 at 11:01 am
YEAH N FOR PRESIDENT , he understood the thing , in china there isnt any skate companies , frames cost the doubles of the normal price beaucse of all the tax and all , these frames were taken from the xsjado manufacturer because they didnt wanted them anymore , these are defectious , he just printed the name on it …….
so yeah fuck off
October 10th, 2006 at 6:24 pm
SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE FUCKERS !!!!
SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE FUCKERS !!!!
SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE FUCKERS !!!!
SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE FUCKERS !!!!
SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE FUCKERS !!!!
October 10th, 2006 at 6:33 pm
producing your own doesnt really count as buying the exact frame and changing the logo. However the fault is that of the manufacturers, knowing that xsjado is in the balance, selling shit through the back door…
The thing i can’t get on with is the fact that they make fake mindgame shirts and bags…that seriously weak…how can people wear that stuff?? its worse than wearing skateboard clothing…
October 10th, 2006 at 8:14 pm
is the rzrs dre powell also a copy? :D
October 10th, 2006 at 8:29 pm
man how can people worry about how frames look…
October 10th, 2006 at 11:41 pm
All of you are too immoderate.
Your are talking about things you ignore.
How can you juge ?
Do you now about rollerblading in China ?!!!
Or just about life in China ?
Do you think chinese skaters can buy a 80 dollars frame ?!!!
Sometimes I m asking how they can buy skates !
Skates are more expensive that an 1 month salary right here !
And they are all made in China !!!
And about this frame what the matter ?
There is no distributor for Xsjado in China. So if the owner of this shop want to sell Xsjado products he should buy it in USA, Europe or Japan and pay shipment for a product made in china !!! Are you serious ?!!
I admit that make a rollerblading product counterfeit sucks … and the first logo was really an offense.
But, to chinese buy stuff made in their own country by exploiting people and pay more than you, europan or american isn’t it an offense ?
You are talking about skating industry …
I don’t worried about the consequence of this kind of product for the “rollerblading industry “.
Less than 100 skaters in Beijing for 16 000 000 citizens … and they all aren’t gonna buy this couterfeit frame ahahah.
I m disappointed about you people cause you didn’t try to understand why
it can have a frame counterfeit in China.
You only wrote some shit about china and this shop owner and glorify your rollerblading industry.
“Burn the witch !” and ” Long live Kingdom” isn’t it ?
October 10th, 2006 at 11:53 pm
These frames were given from the xsjado manufacturer to this shop , what do you think ? That this guy has enough money to start a whole new serie of frames and would only sell 20 of them ? I even doubt that he is going to sell that many frames
October 11th, 2006 at 12:01 am
ahaha, so fucking funny, i would defo buy the moon frames. fuck the industrys they need to wise up, people dont like paying 40 quid or like 50 bucks for some frames.
October 11th, 2006 at 1:01 am
Ahahahah. Wow !
October 11th, 2006 at 1:54 am
OHH GOD, PEOPLE NEED TO ACTUALLY TRY TO TRAVEL MORE AND FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD.
FACT ONE, CHINA IS NOT POOR. MOST OF THE CITIES WITH HIGH NUMBER OF SKATERS ARE ALL BIG CITIES.
FACT TWO, PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD TO SKATE IN CHINA ARE NOT POOR. THEY ARE USUALLY PRETTY WELL OFF, THAT IS WHY THEY COULD START TO LEARN IN THE FIRST PLACE.
FACT THREE, SINCE THEY ARE NOT POOR, AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO AQUIRE REAL SKATING PRODUCTS, THERE IS NO REASON FOR THEM TO PIRATE OTHER COMPANIES’ INVENTION.
TRUTHFULLY, THE FRAME WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS A FAKE XSJADO.
TRUTHFULLY, PEOPLE ARE SELLING THOSE TO MAKE A PROFIT.
SO, MY QUESTION TO ALL THE GENTALMEN HERE WHO ARE TRYING TO DEFEND CHINA:
IS IT NOT RIGHT FOR US, NORMAL PEOPLE WHO LOVE ROLLERBLADING AND ROLLING INDUSTRY, TO BE ANGRY TOWARD THOSE PIRATE’S ACTION?
October 11th, 2006 at 1:56 am
OHH GOD, PEOPLE NEED TO ACTUALLY TRY TO TRAVEL MORE AND FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD.
FACT ONE, CHINA IS NOT POOR. MOST OF THE CITIES WITH HIGH NUMBER OF SKATERS ARE ALL BIG CITIES.
FACT TWO, PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD TO SKATE IN CHINA ARE NOT POOR. THEY ARE USUALLY PRETTY WELL OFF, THAT IS WHY THEY COULD START TO LEARN IN THE FIRST PLACE.
FACT THREE, SINCE THEY ARE NOT POOR, AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO AQUIRE REAL SKATING PRODUCTS, THERE IS NO REASON FOR THEM TO PIRATE OTHER COMPANIES’ INVENTION.
TRUTHFULLY, THE FRAME WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS A FAKE XSJADO.
TRUTHFULLY, PEOPLE ARE SELLING THOSE TO MAKE A PROFIT.
SO, MY QUESTION TO ALL THE GENTALMEN HERE WHO ARE TRYING TO DEFEND CHINA:
IS IT NOT RIGHT FOR US, NORMAL PEOPLE WHO LOVE ROLLERBLADING AND ROLLING INDUSTRY, TO BE ANGRY TOWARD THOSE PIRATE’S ACTION?
October 11th, 2006 at 2:05 am
Hey ‘Meitreya’,
NO Fucking EXCUSE!!!! I know China have the distributor for Xsjado,
you guys are fucking idiot that no communication in China, if you guys want to order the products from Xsjado, you should contact the Salomon China or Hong Kong, NO EXCUSE again!! the faked Xsajdo frame are suck, you will know how suck are the frame after you try, yes, the cost is very low, but low cost= low quality.
Its easy to broken the frame when you grinding, those guys were broken their suck Moon frame after 3 times…, Its really low quality!! they olny want to earn money, they did’nt support the local skating scene in China.
October 11th, 2006 at 2:19 am
that’s really nice, blaming poverty to buy what are essentially stolen goods. All distributors should stop shipping anything to that shop. Try keeping up a skate shop with no products.
October 11th, 2006 at 2:29 am
And also, they fakde the Mindgmae Backpack, since there have the Mindgame distributor in China, why they didnt order the real stuff form the distributor? but faked the backpack, clothing againg and again? if you guys havent the enough money to buy the stuff, wear the normal clothing, most peole will respect you, but if you wear the copy clothing out to skate… people will laugh at you!!!
Pls respect the ‘Intellectual Property’
Q: What is IP and how do I protect it?
A: ‘IP’ or ‘intellectual property’ is (a term that describes) a range of rights in different aspects of your business and your products. The most common IP rights are copyright, registered design, patent and trademarks. They are separate rights that give you protection in different ways. You may need to consider more than one, or all IP rights, to give your business and your products adequate protection
October 11th, 2006 at 2:56 am
I m not trying to find excuse.
And I have nothing to do with this skateshop.
I even never talk to the Tornado’s owner.
I m not even chinese.
And I don t give a fuck about this frame … I skate real Xsajdo.
I just can t let people injure other people they even don t know.
Have you read what Atom wrote ? Of course they are shity. Astroboy wrote about that too.
“they olny want to earn money, they did’nt support the local skating scene in China.“ I thought all the skateshop in the world don’t want to earn money …
And if they didn t want to support the local skating scene in China, they would stop selling Aggressive skates. They don t earn a lot of money with that, only with fitness skates. The tornado s owner only sell agressive products coz he likes rollerblading …
4 Eric : “blaming poverty to buy what are essentially stolen goods” Are U stupid dude ? Can you read ?
And I think Xsjado don t belong to salomon right now.They stopped any activities about rollerblading.
October 11th, 2006 at 3:08 am
HERESY!
October 11th, 2006 at 3:47 am
does anybody know if you can buy them online?
October 11th, 2006 at 5:42 am
Word to Meitreya, he seems to be the only wise man in this board..
dear americans, please try to understand: if a frame would cost, let`s say 400 Dollar, the earning of a month, wouldnt you think of producing your own to keep skating?
October 11th, 2006 at 11:05 am
Meitreya ,
I know the shop owner long time ago… his shop not selling the aggressive products,
he is selling the aggressive image to make people mistake they are professional,
you should check out their website or go direct to the shop, they owen 4 shop in Beijing,
most products are not aggressive stuff, you know what i mean? as the aggressive skate,
they only have few model and few size in stock right now, if someone want to buy a pair aggressive skate,
they need to order from Hong Kong or other skate shop in China, they only sell the fitness skates right now,
also the fitness skates is suck, but they said their products is good to deceive the stupid people in China.
If that guy like rollerblading, he won’t do that!!
check the link below for the broken moon frame.
http://www.o22y.com/Downloads/faked/DSCN0024.jpg
October 12th, 2006 at 4:58 am
hey Metalsatan
i know it sucks that frames are so expensive and it is a good idea to make and produce your own frames, but there is a difference between creating your own frames and stealing the ideas of others
October 12th, 2006 at 2:32 pm
this is stupid, just skate real xsjado frames, dont buy this cheapo rip off stuff, and if rolling isnt big in asia, why do they even need a skate shop?? If there are some people who want to skate should email the companies directly and get them to send them some skates in exchange of money, i think this whole counterfeit thing is stupid and if anyone disagrees thats their opinion. Support rolling and its companies, buy the authentic products and they will return the favour in kind.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
moon??? or mook???
October 13th, 2006 at 1:14 am
the guys doin a back unity, they can’t be good
October 16th, 2006 at 12:33 am
It is true not in every country peoples earn like in usa or like in some countries in europe(mainly the ones in union).
To them its no option to buy abroad…they so damn costly to them…
It’s not fair…But what can couple of peoples to do to change how this world works.
I hope better things to come to countries who aren’t so much into aggressive inline etc.
October 16th, 2006 at 12:38 am
also agree it is understandable to be upset of these copy xjados.
Copying is…what it is…but so many things copy in this world its countless shit.
October 16th, 2006 at 1:54 am
I think that if theese frames are relesed that they should be sold in the united states aside from that i think that they are just taking xjado frames and calling them a different name
October 16th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
PLEASE DO FUCKIN REALIZE THAT CHINESE BASTARDS AR TAKING CONTROL OF EVERYTHING !!! THEY CAN COPY ANYTHING. THOSE FUCKERS HAVE TO BE SUED !!!!
October 16th, 2006 at 11:58 pm
1. Dog Mooks don’t cost 80 bucks .
2. I agree with “N” this shouldn’t be a racially fueled conversation.
3. on everything else a few of you say you should really stop talking from your asses.
I actually own a company that does produce our stuff in China, and even though I may never live out there, stealing is stealing. One of you talked about soul plates and juice blocks, well those are accessories to an already existing product not the exact same thing without the R&D cost. That’s like getting mad at someone because there’s a thousand different remotes for your sony tv. Juice blocks helped, but back to the point. Supporting this guy’s shop/company and any like it kills the industry. We companies that spent millions into getting the product to work and look the way it does then becomes meaningless when some asshole can just take what we’ve done and rob us blind thinking that it doesn’t matter because he’s half way around the world.
Those of you who talk about this guy in an even kinda sort of descent light try this out. You work your ass off at your job to support your family and take care of all your bills and friends, when all of a sudden some jerk either takes the credit for your work or just plain robs you without you knowing it. Is that fair. would you not want to kick or even kill their ass. So why is this any different. We aren’t rich, we owe people for our companies, Xsjado is still paying off their investors seeing as how the company isn’t out of debt yet and they’re already being copied in a country where our copyright and patent laws mean as much to them as a skateboard does to us. I sympathize for Shane and hope that he can get the Tornado shop/Moon Frame owner in a dark alley and beat his ass until he looks like Darth Vader did after he fell into the lava.
alot of you talk about what’s fair and look at this and that. Next time you open your mouth, try to personalize the situation before you selfishly fuck up and talk. Xsjado please get a chinese patent for your skates before it’s too late.