I m glad to see there is a kind of xsjado frame, probably more solid…
Mesays talks about Rattail products as a money trap but …. I m one of these guys who started street skating 12 years ago … with bauer HX1 ( hockey skates with wheels seriously) and we had to custom our skates for getting little soulplates … kill wheels for making ourselves anti-rockaz … and all that for what ? For aking royales and souls on the little rail near a parking….
And now what ?! everybody can get easily accessories for nearly nothin’ ( sorry dude, if you got a good memory, is cheaper right now … but maybe you hadn’t buy the first senate frames ….in 98)
But now it’s another question … what do you prefer ;.. You seems to apologize Kizer as a pionneer .. that’s real … they made the first ufs frames and what ? it was really bullshited design …( yellow or red or with thunder …)
What i mean is that :
Some people prefer skates products of quality … you know wham’sayin’? Like Fifty/50 , Eulogy, Reign,You are here , Vicious, Mindgame …. and even if my skates are completely xsjados… i ll support these companies cause they’re really pushing up … with stuff and videos …
Now another question who could make people looking bad to me but … i’ m true …
What did Conference made except buying companies and old skate moulds (Fila) for making more money ? How many USD are really new? Why is Stygma existing except copying Mindgame and make money on girl’s body ?

I know what you meaned Mesays, but if everybody is supporting the same side of rollerblading … the boat will crack and drown …There is a large sort of in line mondialisation and i don’t like to see the same compagnie owning USD deshi, Undecover, Kizer, Stygma and so and so …
I prefer give my money to Jon Eliott, Shima, Jess Dyrenforth, Broke H Smith, Arlo because they made or they’re making rollerbladin’…
And for the last sentence , i prefer that Ground Control “Kizer type M ” copy than the “Fizyks Copy of Kizer” … Designers were paid for that? What a joke !

Are you dumb?

1. It’s because it’s a waste of bolts.

2. What happens if you lose one of your bolts and axle as you’re skating? If your frames take circular axles, then you cannot use those sickle bolts as back up! (and vice versa!) Yes, you can keep buying new F1 frames over and over again, but like I said, you would only be able to use those sickle bolts on F1’s, hence the waste.

There needs to be a universal axle-head shape for convenience.

Do you understand my points, dumbass?

new frames come with new hardware dude, why would you need to re-use your bolts?

FRIED CHICKEN YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT. ground control did pioneer the first freestyle frame…….the murda frame was a grindblock only no grind heels needed freestyle frame, and it came out way before xsjado granted the h-block was not aslarge as mooks, but they did start that shit so shut your ignorant ass.”

First off, the guy who wrote the quote above is a retarded idiot. Those GC Murda blocks aren’t even “freestyle”. This kid has absolutely no idea what “freestyle” frames means.

Second off, I agree with “me”. GC did not pioneer the “deep h-block” nor did they pioneer the “freestyle” concept. They’re just pissing more people off by claiming they’re the pioneers. The first frame looks nothing like Kizers, but the second one certainly looks like Mooks.

And to “guy”, you know nothing about rolling. Rollerblade TRS were not the first “one-allen axle” system. If you didn’t know K2 had had this one-allen key axle removal system before your ass was even born. They had em on their non-UFS skates before UFS-TRS even came out. I actually think these sickle bolts are an absolute waste of metal. Once your frames are done, those sickle bolts are rendered absolutely incompatible (and hence useless) because you cannot use them on another frame. What are you going to do? Keep riding F1 frames just so you can hand down the use of those sickle bolts? Gimme a break. Same thing goes for the wasteful TRS triangle bolts, etc.

and for all them haters… its not the fames but the skater haha if u gave brian arragon or chaz sands them then a bet they would still rip it up with them so just deal with it ;)!!

And “Me”, I’m still waiting for the numbers of sales, you mysterious industry guy…

I’m no “indutry guy”, but i do have some knowledge as far of distribution and sales of rolling merchandise goes… i don’t think i could post actual numbers and facts (might seriously piss some people off)… but i can suggest somewhat of research that anyone of you can do about parts stock in any major rollerblading shop … for example check out why major shops keep restocking products from specific distributors and producers (rat tail, powerslide etc.) depending on actual sales and demands by normal customers (yes that means you) and why some products never restock (mainly because the demand is not that big to continue investing) and at some point you will observe that as far as hardgoods go outside stock setups (all parts included) gc selles less parts (in europe at least) …

In hopes of not causing anymore debate i underline that this post is strictly my point of view and will cease to reply (and suggest everyone to think before they post in order to stop misleading the less informed or less educated readers)

Type M ? Xsjado Mook. Elements ? Epoch. Suspension ? Fiziks.

This kinf of debate never ends…

And “Me”, I’m still waiting for the numbers of sales, you mysterious industry guy…