I roll flat, but i only ride street, it’s not too hard when you get the hang of it, i am 5’7′ tall, rails are easy, ledges are only difficult if i hit ones that are below my knees, so anything higher than that i can grind easy with no wheel bite. Grooves on flat frames are big already these days, it’s almost hard to miss a grind, so i see not much use for freestyle frames for me. But everyone has a different way to skate i guess. The only freestyle frame i see usefull is the suspension kizers.

im confused at why people are so concerned over the weight of their skates, in most cases, a few ounces (i.e. feather light frames over a normal frame that doesnt break as easily and takes more wear and tear). ive skated heavy skates and ive skated light skates, once you get used to one or the other, you cant really notice a difference.

i personally would rather have a skate that isnt super heavy, but heavy enough to feel solid, especially when i land, and support me how it needs to, unlike any pair of deshis ive ever skated.

buy a cheaper skate that looks better, lasts longer, and fell better.

LOL

I skate valos, but it seems as if skating that would be like skating xsjados without the shoe.